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General Category => Technical Discussion Forum => Topic started by: Badgerman on December 18, 2024, 08:53:46 AM

Title: 1931 Model 9 - oil pipe and fittings
Post by: Badgerman on December 18, 2024, 08:53:46 AM
Need to replace a couple of the oil feed pipes on the model 9 and would appreciate it if someone could tell me the original size of the copper pipe I need and the solder nipple size?  I presume all of the pipes from and to the oil tank are the same size?

Appreciate your help

Jamie
Title: Re: 1931 Model 9 - oil pipe and fittings
Post by: Daniel on December 18, 2024, 02:43:25 PM
Suspect this is what you are looking for:

https://marston-sunbeam.org/sunbeam_shop17/index.php?id_product=656&rewrite=oil-and-petrol-pipe-olives&controller=product (https://marston-sunbeam.org/sunbeam_shop17/index.php?id_product=656&rewrite=oil-and-petrol-pipe-olives&controller=product)
Title: Re: 1931 Model 9 - oil pipe and fittings
Post by: Badgerman on December 18, 2024, 03:55:59 PM
Many thanks Daniel, sorry I missed those on the shop.

Jamie
Title: Re: 1931 Model 9 - oil pipe and fittings
Post by: Rick Parkington on December 24, 2024, 12:12:38 PM
Just for the record, the pipes are 5/ 16" outside diameter (not 8mm central heating pipe which is slightly bigger and may no fit the olives) and the nuts are 1/ 4 BSP. People often suggest silver solder for strength - some original pipes were done that way - but soft solder is adequate as well as needing much less heat making it easier to do and also much simpler to de-solder and salvage old nipples.
And as a final thought, modern bright nickel plating seems to make pipes very brittle in a way that originals are not,  possibly because the plating is too thick, not sure - but I don't remember having any bother with electroless nickel plate on pipes. Anyway if you choose to plate them make sure the bends are correct before getting them done.
Cheers Rick
Title: Re: 1931 Model 9 - oil pipe and fittings
Post by: Thomas on December 24, 2024, 01:26:03 PM
Yes, nickel plating the pipes needs correct bending before applying. Nickel is very brittle not because of the thickness but because of the material itself. The reason is its face-centered cubic crystal structure in contrast to body-centered cubic of chrome which makes the latter hard (same as carbon vs. diamond). Because of the price I opted for nickel (not for diamonds) and it's ok.
Merry Christmas, Thomas